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Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:24 pm

Had a slight problem yesterday,

My MK6 90ps got water down into the turbo overnight (turns out theres a nice hole allowing it to get into the air filter inlet), whent to start it yesterday, turned over slow but didnt lock up, looked out at the exhaust and there was water coming out :shock: still it started, smoked like f**k but soon cleared

No loss of power and no extra smoke

started fine all day

This morning, started first turn but smoked like f**k again, white unburnt diesel smoke, Now is it likely to be compression or could it be an injector has failed,

dont have any power loss and it starts first crank but just smokes for about 5 mins of driving, i would have thort if it was compression it wouldnt start well :? and now im thinking i may have a knackered injector :?

If it is compression i will just swap the engine for a good 2nd hand unit (prob a 125ps)

any ideas befor i gp and find one
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:10 pm

also getting a bit of white smoke at tickover when cold and on over run when cold
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby evans88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:42 pm

Have you looked in your air filter? I have found that it fills up with water when left standing so I fitted a plastic cover over it. Could be the source of your problem. Let us know.
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:44 pm

evans88 wrote:Have you looked in your air filter? I have found that it fills up with water when left standing so I fitted a plastic cover over it. Could be the source of your problem. Let us know.



that was the problem yesturday, the turbo filled up with water :shock:

Fitted a non std one anyway

Im hopeing its just an injector but i think its more terminal, starting fine now its hot
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby madmark » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:45 pm

:shock: how come it only happens to you guy! :roll: :roll:
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:50 pm

madmark wrote::shock: how come it only happens to you guy! :roll: :roll:



No idea :(

There was a hole for something in the scuttle allowing water in and the poxy pipe from the scuttle drain leakes right onto the filter

been smoking at tickover for a while now, just getting a bit tired :(
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:19 pm

Just an update, now noticed a missfire on coldstart, lots of smoke, clears when its revved for a bit

So could be an injector hopefully, will isolate it tomorrow, if it isnt then head will come off to check the pistons and rods

On the TIS it says i need an injector aligner, anyone care to tell me what this is :?:
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby 100 T280 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:53 pm

How's the water getting into the filter housing, if it's dripping onto the housing no water should get in if the top is fitted right surely ( :?: )
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby transitgeoff » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:04 pm

hes got a boy racer filter fitted :wink: and the aligner is to lign up the injectors when tightening to enable the leak off to be fitted correctly :D
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby 100 T280 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:16 pm

transitgeoff wrote:hes got a boy racer filter fitted
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:23 pm

It has got a cone filter but it did this with the original, when i changed it the filter was soaked with rain water

As for the aligner basically i dont really need one :lol:
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby andy westcott » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:06 am

Sounds to me as though you damaged a valve, piston crown or rings, causing a loss of compression in one cylinder - this can happen if water gets in. This would explain the lack of combustion when cold, but clearing as the engine is revved or warms up.

I'd get a compression check done just to rule this out, as I don't see it can be an injector.
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Guy88 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:09 am

thats the plan if it isnt an injector, will be hiring a tester, if its down then head off for a look :(
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby ake » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:30 am

It could be a bent conrod cos it might have hydrauliced on the cylinder which is now missing :(
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Re: Dying MK6 90ps

Postby Frag » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:57 am

ake wrote:It could be a bent conrod cos it might have hydrauliced on the cylinder which is now missing :(



WHS ^ but hopefully not,usual ending to water ingress.
Check piston heights if you do pull head,usually bends a rod & the slight difference in piston height causes a miss-fire.This probably won`t show on a compression test.

Start with basics though,once you`ve pulled it to bits if you don`t find owt,it`s too late to put it back together to try easy stuff :?

Lets hope it`s an injector :) ,check the glowplugs as well (if they come out in one piece).
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